Pike & Shotte Errata and questions to date

[Paulyj123]

Hi,

Can I ask a quick question.

With the English Civil War lists, the Storming Party unit type is "Foot". Now are they Foot Battle line or Foot Skirmishers/Skirmish Order?

We are having trouble working out which one it is as the book has nothing about this unit type that we can find.

Also on pg155 Under Ordnance is "on" meant to be "one" Artillery piece? Maybe a really silly question but just making sure.

Many Thanks.

[SteveMorgan]

Hi

Their default should be Foot Battle Line for all the ECW armies, the same as the TYW lists.

Cheers

Steve

[Jammers]

In BP we started with 1 x gun per battery and now use 2 with 1 representing a half battery

We'll probably start the same way in P&S with the exception of light guns

[trevor allen]

The reason that in BP we went to 2 guns to represent a battery was that an artillery battery took up the same space as an infantry regiment in line (give or take). That certainly is not the case for P & S as artillery regiments did not exist as regiments at this time. The artillery train should not be considered as a formal regiment. This is one case where guns should be left as they are, as they tended to be deployed either in batteries which do still take up a large amount of space (and generally are going to be ineffective) or as single guns spread along a line.

[grant]

The reason that in BP we went to 2 guns to represent a battery was that an artillery battery took up the same space as an infantry regiment in line (give or take). That certainly is not the case for P & S as artillery regiments did not exist as regiments at this time. The artillery train should not be considered as a formal regiment. This is one case where guns should be left as they are, as they tended to be deployed either in batteries which do still take up a large amount of space (and generally are going to be ineffective) or as single guns spread along a line.

an interesting point, to be sure. I do agree with the idea that BP represents a whole battery. I only have one gun for my P&S so far, so think it will do fine.

[trevor allen]

In fact, in BP we should be using more guns than 2 to represent a battery. Glad that P & S does'nt have this problem. In P & S artillery is less effective at shooting, but actally more effective in HTH!!

[grant]

In fact, in BP we should be using more guns than 2 to represent a battery. Glad that P & S does'nt have this problem. In P & S artillery is less effective at shooting, but actally more effective in HTH!!

In P&S, I agree - in BP, we have actually been using more than one gun, usually 2, and each brigade gets their battery, and it works fine, in my opinion. Artillery hasn't been too brutal, to be honest.

So, the gun in P&S should be used as a mobile storming force?

[lannes1uk]

Reference the Foot Battle Line response, does default mean Commanded Shotte and Storming Party would normally be in battle line, but can change formation to fight in skirmish order?

[Hugh Biquais]

Re:- Evading Dragoons.
The rule book seems clear to me; if charged in the enemy turn, dismounted Dragoons take a command test. If successful, they give closing fire before evading, the chargers move up to the Dragoons start position. If not successful, they must take the charge but get to give closing fire as normal. The Dragoons can always opt to stand anyway without taking the command test. Simple, but I still have a couple of questions.
Firstly, at what pace do dismounted Dragoons evade? Do they evade as skirmish infantry and get crushed if the enemy cavalry charging them has enough movement left. Or do they get their "one free mount/dismount per turn" and gallop off to relative safety (even if they have just dismounted in their "bound" of this "turn").
Secondly, how do mounted Dragoons respond to a charge? Do they evade as cavalry or do they get to give closing fire "from the saddle" before evading.
Thanks.

[trevor allen]

As there seem to be quite a few newbies about, I just thought this should come back to help them.

Trev