Battle of the Bulge US Intel and Recon HQ unit

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October 22, 2018 at 5:57 am #148824

Master Chief
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I just found out about this HQ unit, and this may have been asked before. The wording for this HQ unit in the Battle of the Bulge book reads “Officer and two men for 37pts (inexperienced), 50pts (regular) and 61pts (veteran).” This looks close to the point cost for a normal US officer. Is the point cost for the 3-man team or only the officer?

Thanks.

October 22, 2018 at 6:14 am #148825

Stuart Harrison
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Haven’t got a copy of that book yet – looking at the entry, do you have the option to add additional men?

What rules do you get under special rules?

At a guess, despite mentioning “officer” in the composition the unit wouldn’t act as an officer (2Lt, Lt, Capt or Major) in the game (no morale bonus or snap to it, just the benefits of it’s special rule/s) – that would account for the seemingly cheap cost.

October 22, 2018 at 6:31 am #148826

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Good point Stuart, I believe you are probably right that the Intel “officer” does not confer the normal officer benefits.

I also do not have the book but came across it on google books whiles searching forntwin bazooka jeep, which coincidentally is the entry below the US Intel HQ unit and Intel Squad. The link is below if you are interested to take a look.

https://books.google.com.sg/books?id=-GMbDgAAQBAJ&pg=PA27&lpg=PA27&dq=bolt+action+twin+bazooka+rules&source=bl&ots=ph1oaPte2w&sig=qZgliouCYnZo93MD2C3IjpmXL1w&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiEnMySkpneAhXHfn0KHY4HBMwQ6AEwDHoECAcQAQ#v=onepage&q=bolt%20action%20twin%20bazooka%20rules&f=false

October 22, 2018 at 6:31 am #148827

Master Chief
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Good point Stuart, I believe you are probably right that the Intel “officer” does not confer the normal officer benefits.

I also do not have the book but came across it on google books while searching for the twin bazooka jeep, which coincidentally is the entry below the US Intel HQ unit and Intel Squad. The link is below if you are interested to take a look.

https://books.google.com.sg/books?id=-GMbDgAAQBAJ&pg=PA27&lpg=PA27&dq=bolt+action+twin+bazooka+rules&source=bl&ots=ph1oaPte2w&sig=qZgliouCYnZo93MD2C3IjpmXL1w&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiEnMySkpneAhXHfn0KHY4HBMwQ6AEwDHoECAcQAQ#v=onepage&q=bolt%20action%20twin%20bazooka%20rules&f=false

October 22, 2018 at 6:36 am #148828

Master Chief
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Good point Stuart, I believe you are probably right that the Intel “HQ unit” does not confer the normal officer benefits.

I also do not have the book but came across it on google books while searching for the twin bazooka jeep, which coincidentally is the entry below the US Intel HQ unit and Intel Squad. Before the Intel HQ unit listing there is a separate Intel “Officer” unit listing that can be added to a normal officer unit.

The link is below if you are interested to take a look.

https://books.google.com.sg/books?id=-GMbDgAAQBAJ&pg=PA27&lpg=PA27&dq=bolt+action+twin+bazooka+rules&source=bl&ots=ph1oaPte2w&sig=qZgliouCYnZo93MD2C3IjpmXL1w&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiEnMySkpneAhXHfn0KHY4HBMwQ6AEwDHoECAcQAQ#v=onepage&q=bolt%20action%20twin%20bazooka%20rules&f=false

October 22, 2018 at 12:17 pm #148857

Stuart Harrison
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Really need to see the preceding page to see if there’s any indication in the fluff as to whether he gets any of the functions of a normal officer (ie: what rank for morale bonus/snap to it bonuses) – from what’s shown there I’d say no, otherwise you get a super-officer for a significant discount (factoring in the 2 free men).

October 23, 2018 at 7:08 am #148898
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Hi Stuart, I have attached screen shots of the pages, hope they help shed some light.
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October 23, 2018 at 7:13 am #148902
Master Chief
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One more page which didn’t load.
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October 23, 2018 at 10:19 am #148906

Stuart Harrison
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Yeah, nothing in that indicates that the intelligence officer comes with any command abilities – he is either an upgrade to an existing officer, bringing the int special rule to that unit, or he’s an independent 3 man unit bringing the special rule on his own. I’d treat him like a Commissar or Kempeitai Political Officer – officer in name only, more like a marker for a special rule.

October 23, 2018 at 6:39 pm #148954

Richard
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Correct, it’s another HQ unit.

November 9, 2018 at 9:49 am #149819

Mike
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So i was looking at these also. According to the entry i need to run 1 Intel and Recon squad for each Bazooka jeep. of course the I&R squad isn’t listed in easy army. Would the I&R HQ be a troop choice or an HQ choice?
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