RULES QUESTION: Gun Position Defined

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  • October 9, 2019 at 11:10 pm #169551
    Lincolnlog
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    Okay a little confused and can’t find where to clear this up. Your 1st and 2nd Gun positions that fire in the turn, do so without penalty. The 3rd Gun position is -1, and the 4th is -2 (IIRC)?

    Is a gun position all the guns facing one side of the ship, or is all of one type of gun facing one side of the ship.

    Example: If my first rate fires all its port/left side guns, and the starboard side gun, and the bow chasers and the stern chasers in that order, is it no penalty for all Port and Starboard guns, then -1 Bow Chaser, -2 Stern Chaser?

    Or is it my heavy port side will fire first no penalty, my port side carronades 2nd with no penalty, my port side lights -1, my starboard side heavies and anything else I fire -2?

    October 10, 2019 at 3:07 pm #169585
    George
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    I didn’t find the definition of ‘gun position’ too clear either. It seems an inappropiate term for AoS warfare, and perhaps a left over from Cruel Seas?
    I agree with your first definition ( since with the second definition you would go beyond four ‘gun positions’). There is a diagram early in the rules illustrating the four gun positions, viz:
    (in no particular order) starboard broadside
    port broadside
    bow chaser
    stern chaser
    Hope this helps. And perhaps the author could clarify?

    October 10, 2019 at 3:31 pm #169589
    Lincolnlog
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    Thanks George. I’ve watched some YouTube play throughs and that was their interpretation also.

    Hopefully we can get a firm answer, but I believe you are probably correct.

    October 14, 2019 at 11:00 am #169792
    Matt Varnish (Dennis Campbell)
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    We’ve done it assuming each Gun Icon on the card is a gun position. So a 5th Rate could sail in between two enemies, and shoot, for example, Port side Heavy Cannon and Light Cannon at no penalty, then continue a move and then fire Starboard side Heavy Cannon at -1 penalty, and then the light cannons at -2. Naturally, if you are mixing in stern and bow chasers, these also count.

    EDIT, no each position is indeed a facing, and each ‘position’ can fire all its guns and count as one position firing.

    October 14, 2019 at 12:09 pm #169807
    Steve Burt
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    I think each Gun Position is a side.
    So Port, Starboard, Bow, Rear

    October 14, 2019 at 1:20 pm #169823
    Matt Varnish (Dennis Campbell)
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    Yep, re-read this morning, its each ‘facing’ = a position.

    October 15, 2019 at 4:27 pm #169914
    MGM
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    …. I’ve assumed “one type of gun facing one side of the ship.” ie: port H.. L.. C = 3 guns positions based on the reasoning that the minus deduction is due to smoke which must be from the same side (?)
    It obviously needs the author(s) to give a clear definition

    October 18, 2019 at 10:40 am #170092
    Steve Burt
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    I think the deduction is because there are not enough gunners to fire more than two sides of the ship, not because of smoke. All guns on a side would fire at the same time.

    October 21, 2019 at 5:10 pm #170181
    Steve Burt
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    There is a clear diagram showing the 4 gun positions on page 15 of the rules

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