Battle of France – Dragon Porte VB Group – unit size

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  • April 6, 2020 at 5:10 pm #176615
    MRenye
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    Hi all,

    The latest rules errata on page 25 (3-Feb-2020), states that the French VB Group is comprised of 1 NCO, and 3 men.

    Weapons are listed as “Rifles with VB launchers

    120 Points

    Q1 – Is there any option to increase the unit size (I would assume 30 points per additional “Regular” man if allowed)?

    Q2 – Does the NCO also count as being armed with a VB?

     

    Before the FAQ was released, I managed to field a unit of 1 NCO and 4 VB armed men.

    It was a very effective little firebase that managed to drop a fair amount of smoke, and also kill 1 or 2 enemies and nicely pin that unit.

    But I could see how a much larger unit could be a little TOO effective, so the size limitation is likely deliberate.

     

    Many thanks!

    April 7, 2020 at 1:35 am #176623
    Stuart Harrison
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    1. No.  Nothing stops house rules if you negotiate it with your opponent but if nothing in the entry allows you to add more men – by the rules, no more men.

    2.  The weapons line applies to all models in a unit entry unless specifically stated otherwise.  Nothing different is stated for the NCO so he is armed as per the rest of the unit.

    April 7, 2020 at 4:52 pm #176659
    Paul Nettle
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    Please forgive my ignorance, but on which page of “Armies of France and the Allies” is the VB group described?  It seems far more historical than issuing one per squad.

    April 7, 2020 at 11:05 pm #176668
    MRenye
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    The VB Group is found in the “Battle of France” Campaign book. Page 85.

    There are a number of additional units that are added, including the VB, but also more options for the Dragons Porte, Intelligence Squads, Engineers, Officer Cadets, etc, and more AMC variants.

    April 7, 2020 at 11:40 pm #176669
    Paul Nettle
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    Many thanks, I have looked it up.  It is a shame it is just the Dragons Porte can do that, becuase I belive normal paltoons did that too.  I only have ordinary platoons, not Dragona Portes, but I believe some companies do Dragons Portes troops which sadly Warlord Games don’t.

    April 8, 2020 at 1:37 am #176674
    MRenye
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    I agree on the point that most units should be allowed the option to split off their VB’s.

    As to Dragons Porte, I use the normal Warlord French models. There are other manufacturers as you say, but I don’t think they are quality enough to buy.

    And the other company have chosen the shorter coat as opposed to the long jacket since I believe they are trying to model them as motorcycle troops?

    I believe the uniforms of other DP units (in carrier or trucks) was very similar to the regular French uniform (from my reading), which is why I just use those.

    April 8, 2020 at 1:41 am #176675
    MRenye
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    Thanks.

    Before the FAQ was released it was not clear on the unit size which is why I went with the five man section (1 NCO+4)

    I do believe a larger unit would be a little excessive historically as well as perhaps unbalanced.

    And I choose to have four units of other Dragons Porte from which to pull those VB’s for reassignment.

     

    Thanks again!

    April 8, 2020 at 9:44 am #176689
    Paul Nettle
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    Thanks for your research – I found pictures of Dragons Porte frustratingly difficult to find.  But it might be fun to do a motorcycle unit to add to my French – despite already haveing all six infantry squads.  I shall have to finish the Vichy French desert army first though.

    April 13, 2020 at 9:16 am #177028
    HellRaiser 7
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    Thanx for posting the VB question. I have a pretty big Early War French Army and haven’t used any VBs cause didn’t think they would be effective. Now I think I’m going to have field a VB unit. Especially with throwing smoke out there.

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