Still not clarified: rules for the DAK Aufklärungsgruppen
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Sorry to bring this topic up again, but Warlord doesn’t seem to have clarified on a satisying way, how Aufklärungsgruppen work ingame. Nor that that the rules for them are anyhow updated in the FAQ.
Yeah, I know this discussion: https://www.warlordgames.com/community/topic/aufklarungs-gruppe/
But unfortunately, it gives little answers and leaves me with a whole lot of questions:
1. Aufklärungsgruppen meant to be 1 unit of vehicles, providing 1 order die. Check.
2. The rules of transport vehicles rulebook page 217 should apply, according to a WG community manager. When this is the case, why isn’t that stated in the special rules section of the unit? The Kraftradschützensquad in the France campaign book has this stated.
3. They have a special rule called ‘Recon vehicle’. Is that a other wording for ‘Recce’? Or does that specify, that they are no transport vehicles?
3.1. If it means ‘Recce’: how transfers that to a unit of vehicles? Must the whole unit be out of sight then or only the targeted single vehicle?
4. Why isn’t that clarified in the FAQ? I see the design problems with vehicles in units, but that doesn’t mean they should be ignored officially (for now more than 2 years).
It would be nice, if someone of the WG staff can give us some insights on this topic, if there are some. If not, then just let us know and probably just ignore this (quiet cool❤) unit. But how things are, this unit is broken at the moment, with no proper official clarification.
First unofficial source is the opinion of the community manager in this discussion
Second hint are the similar Kraftradschützen from the Battle of France campaign book. These are also a unit of vehicles, same experience level all vehicles etc.
And of course, getting 5 order die for 180 points would be insane. Plus, the Aufklärungsgruppe takes one AC slot, so 1 order die would be the normal approach.
But your case shows the problem right here: No official source and several ways of interpretation of these “rules”. Just opinions in the end.
The issue is a mix of …. warlord dont have the same authors for the campaign books, os htere is little consistancy between the books – either rules or units &warlord try not to FAQ/Errata the campaign books
So, not having the books in question I would go with
1) IF its purchased as a single unit then it provides one order die & is activated at the same time.
2)If its a unit then the only way for it to work is the advance optional rules of transport units.
3.1 – if there is no written rule in the unit entry then I’d go with the core rule ‘rece’, and as such see answer one, its a unit in all respects (1 model can be targeted then the whole unit reacts, same as 1 guy in Line of Sight being targted by a mortar with all going down)4) As said warlord have state they will not FAQ /Errata the campaign books, this is because they see them as a framework for clubs and groups etc to expand and alter as they see fit… (another reason why tournaments ban /disallow campagin books!)
From the FAQ…
[quote]With the few exceptions in the section below, there are no plans to consistently compile all errata and FAQs for these books. Rather, only the major errata&FAQs will be covered. This is because, even more than the rest of the BA range, these books are written in a spirit of fun and cooperation between the players. Some of the rules in them are fairly extreme and game changing (amphibious assaults, snow & ice, Maginot Line fortifications…), and to be honest the normal rules of BA struggle to accommodate such different situations and had to be pushed to the limit… and beyond! We assume therefore that players will resolve any conflict arising from rules included in these books in a friendly and fun manner, or roll a die and move on with the game. [/quote]oh I agree totally… I think consistancy and clarity* is important between books (& factions in a game!)…. well…. lets just say I made my point clear to one of warlords authors**…. (and similarly warlord themselves, never did get an answer to that email about proof reading in their books :p )
*as in not needing a FAQ /errata to find out how to play a rule…
** I was NOT impressed with his answer of ‘if you can make it so most people can understand what you mean in 2 lines dont bother writing 6 so everyone knows what you mean’ or words to that effect…
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