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  • November 10, 2023 at 2:33 pm #189621
    Paul tysoe
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    In a game earlier today, it was suggested that penetration only applies against armoured targets. Ie flamethrowers or heavy weapons do not count penetration against soft targets or infantry.

     

    I have always played penetration counts against all targets as per page 61.

    November 10, 2023 at 3:25 pm #189622
    Arty Gun
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    Of course, penetration counts for all targets. This makes up for the difference between being hit by a pistol round, and a bazooka round.

    November 10, 2023 at 4:45 pm #189623
    Steiner
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    What about a bazooka or a panzerfaust (hollow charges)? Can they shooting against infantry? How would it work?

    November 10, 2023 at 4:53 pm #189624
    Arty Gun
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    Yes, bazooka and Panzer Faust can shoot at infantry. Unless you rule a one to wound, which is always  unsuccessful, that soldier will be dead if it was hit by one of these weapons in the game. Real life, infantry soldier would’ve been blowing apart, and his friends will be looking for his dog tags in the goo.

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    November 10, 2023 at 5:22 pm #189627
    L.T. Russell
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    In our recent Konflikt 47 league, I used Panzerschreck teams to blow up Russian Ursus infantry and an American player used Bazookas on some of my Nacht Alben.  Penetration makes it easier to kill everything….

    November 11, 2023 at 4:01 am #189628
    Stuart Harrison
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    Penetration, the weapon stat, applies vs all targets as you stated – P61, second sentence of the definition. What doesn’t apply except when heavy weapons hit armoured targets is the pen modifiers (side, rear, top, long range) from p106-7, Vehicles, Shooting At Vehicles, Damage vs Armoured Targets.

    November 11, 2023 at 8:10 pm #189630
    Aidan Degg
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    Yeah I believe it counts against all things. If it didn’t there wouldn’t be a great deal of point in the HMG vs the MMG.

    November 12, 2023 at 1:05 pm #189631
    Jermaine
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    Yes, penetration works on infantry.

    Otherwise, Vets with body armor is awful to get through

    November 14, 2023 at 10:15 am #189636
    invisible officer
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    In real life there had been splinter rings to fix to the Panzerfaust head.  So it could be used like an HE grenade too.     The PIAT was even better for that role. With no backblast safe to use in rooms or trenches.

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