[Rick]

I’m not a big fan of the infantry vs tank rules. I was looking at an SAS list as well. But, by having no direct anti tank capability, it is making me reconsider. Since the unit size is fairly small, needing at a minimum a 4+ to hit and that is if you can catch the vehicle immobilized or without an order. So, if you roll well you might be able to take out an 8+ vehicle. Which is fine for early war, which is when they are built for. But most players will be taking heavies in their lists.

[Rick]

Okay, so the example would be that you start with whichever is greater, pen markers or bonus. Subtract the small of the two. Whatever the balance is, positive or negative is then added, or subtracted from the base morale of the unit.

I never thought of just adding the difference. Like you said it is simultaneously figured.

Thank you, it makes sense now.

[Rick]

Thank you for the replies. I understand the extra order mechanics. My question was the timing of modifiers. Does the bonus go first, which would then have no effect on veteran troops. Basically raising the morale to 10 before any pen markers are applied. Or do you take the base morale of the unit, subtract any pen markers, and then add the bonus back in.

Doing it with the bonus first makes it harder to pass order checks with pen markers and basically makes everyone veteran level.

Doing it the second way makes it so units will be testing on 9 or 10 every time. Every time they are close to the officer that is.

Sorry to keep beating up on this, I just don’t understand the timing.

[Rick]

Wait, so the officer bonus does not apply to an order check? I missed that in my first reply.

[Rick]

So the bonus is applied after the pen markers reduce the value? I just wish it was made clear in the rule book. Has anything official came out, like an update or anything? I’ve only been playing for about a month.

[Rick]

So back to the morale question. Which takes place first? Does the officer bonus apply before the pen markers or pen marked first? Example, a regular unit is by the 1st Lt. and has 3 pen markers. So is the math 9-3+2 for an 8 or is it 9+2 (max at 10) – 3 for a 7?

We have been playing it that the officer bonus is for morale checks only. Just like it says for stubborn, that an order check is not a morale check.

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