[Dave]

You can see a paint chip sample for Schnellbootweiss on this page (just click the color sample sheet to enlarge)

http://www.shipcamouflage.com/kreigsmarine.htm

You can see paint chips for other navies at this link:

http://www.shipcamouflage.com/paint_chips.htm

[Dave]

I like the idea of weapons packs for modifying ships.

I’ll add a few items to the list

Royal Navy
– Definitively some of the smaller MGBs
– Denny Steam Gunboats
– Fairmile As, Bs, and C (I assume the Bs are coming, since there are stats for them)
– An Air/Sea Rescue boat
– 77′ Elco MGB/MTB

U.S.
– 77′ Elco PT boat
– Mid-war version of the Elco 80′ PT (or the weapons to make one)

Japan
– Diahatsu landing craft with weapon variants for transports and gunboats

Soviet
-MO type submarine chasers

[Dave]

Thanks for the tip. I will check out the West wind line.

[Dave]

A good reference on Allied coastal forces are the books by John Lambert and Al Ross call Allied Coastal Forces of World War II. There were two volumes published – Volume I dealt with Fairmile designs and U.S. sub chasers, and Volume II covered Vosper MTBs and Elcos. They are pricey to buy, but sometimes you can find them in libraries.

Volume II has a short chapter on U.S. Elco camouflage that includes the factory applied and subsequent camouflage measures applied. But there is a summary paragraph that says:
“There were at least twelve different approved camouflage measures applied to Elco PTs between 1940 and 1945, as well as a variety of unofficial, field-applied patterns. Most of the boats produced up to early 1942 left the factory in grey and were then repainted as appropriate for their theater of operations. Pacific boats we generally repainted overall green initially, then in one of the multiple green measures. Atlantic boats generally retained an overall grey scheme. As one might expect, though, variations occurred. The Elcos operating in the Aleutians were grey, while RON 29 boats in the Mediterranean were light blue (Measure 16), despite having left the factory in the greens of Measure 31.5P.”

US Navy MTB RON 29 was made up the of Elco 80 foot PT boats number 552 – 563. Measure 16 used Thayer Blue on vertical surfaces and Deck Blue on Horizontal surfaces (http://www.shipcamouflage.com/measure_16.htm). You can find some naval color equivalents for Vallejo paints at this link – https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwig0KHs4OvfAhXRCjQIHQCOA2kQFjAAegQIChAC&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ipmsswamp.com%2Ffiles%2FVallejoWWIINavalColorEquivalents.pdf&usg=AOvVaw3iOhQAloMy3l7VW9b7KjVz

Note that USN MTB RON 15, made up of Higgins 78 foot PT boats 201 – 218, also operated in the Mediterranean. I haven’t seen an official color for those.

For the rocket launchers, the ones on the Warlord game model Elco PT are the Mk 50 launcher, which were not common until 1944. The ones used in the Mediterranean on the Elcos were probably the Mk 8 “egg-crate” launchers (see this image: http://www.navsource.org/archives/12/120513103.jpg) and on the Higgins boats a Mousetrap type (see this image: http://www.navsource.org/archives/12/120521101.jpg). That said, it wouldn’t hurt anything to use the ones that are included with the model.

[Dave]

Hi Nigel,

1) The mast on the early Vosper MTB (Type I in the rules) was offset to the starboard side. You can see this in the MTB image on pages 4 & 5 of the rulebook. The later Vosper (Type II in the rules) has the mast slightly offset to the port side.

2) It does sound you got American dice instead of Royal Navy dice (although those have a Commando emblem on them rather than a Royal Navy emblem). But as long as you have two different colors of dice for each side, it should be okay.

3) As William noted, American PT boats were deployed to the Mediterranean and Channel. There were even joint operations with Royal Navy and U.S. Navy coastal forces. But if you don’t want your American PT boats, you could always send them to me. 8^)

Dave

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