Vetrarbreytin

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  • #187480
    Vetrarbreytin
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    Very great topic, thanks for gathering all the infos here ! Cheers, mates.

    #178402
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    @Bob D “if you fundamentally believe the Spanish are misrepresented in the Black Seas rules, simply adjust them to your taste and enjoy the game! That is, after all, the whole and only point ” you are interpreting my words. I’m fine with the rules. Just a bit jaded by this constant Spanish-bashing -no one here denies its weaknesses from 1770 to 1830- and wanted to support those who try to set the record straight. The initial posts were pointing stricto sensu interesting facts that go beyond BS. In the end this is a game, as you said, but still we can quote some historical facts that remind some people Spain used not to be the fool of the European village ; so am I quite entertained by the quite despising, if not disappointing, reactions against that country.

    #178391
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    You’re arguing semantics ! Was there no ship involved in that siege ? Did any action take place on land ? Was it not a strategic AND a military victory ?

    When you speak of war, how can you not take into account attrition, diseases, environment, topography, weather (specially about naval war ? Like don’t you care about wind, storm, swell,  etc.?). If you keep ignoring these points every time, how would you ever be able to quote any example of military victory strictly won by “pure strengths overwhelming one each other” regardless of these parameters.
    <p style=”text-align: left;”>Concerning Cartagena, some historians  estimate until fifty years after that battle (Anglo-Saxon historians consider it as a battle by the way while German, Spanish, French or  Italian ones as a siege) the repercussions for the Royal Navy and its strategic situation in the Caribbean and New World theatre. So I must disagree, that’s everything but a anecdote.</p>
    I was pretty sure you would invoke the argument that it was out of Black Seas period so I can also cite the naval battle during the siege of Valletta which is still a siege but involving naval troops. And at last, if sieges / blockades / or just land as strategic location hadn’t been representative of the Age of Sail, Black Seas would’ve never represented and included them in the game with scenarios, islands, forts, martello towers, etc. That’s just of course my humble opinion.:)

    #178389
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    >Spain was amongst the most powerful empires of those days. If you are lacking of “better” examples, have you ever heard of the battle of Cartagena de Indias in 1741 ? One of the greatest victories ever made in the Age of Sail history. At the time of Black Seas, Spain was but a shadow of its former self but still can’t be too much marginalised!

    #177410
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    Great results ! Thank you for sharing, it gives a lot of possibilities.

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    #175630
    Vetrarbreytin
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    Hey mate,

    You know that this game is relatively recent so I guess people haven’t tried it deeply yet. Actually I’m pretty concerned with this question of scenery because it really gives a lot of character to the games. I hope we will find some solutions to add to the Scenery pack that has been lately released.

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