17pdr AT tow

[Gareth]

Just checking as far as I`m aware British 17pdr AT guns can be towed by just about anything and don’t need a limber ?

[Richard]

17pdr is a super heavy AT gun, there are only a few vehicles that can tow it.

There is no limber in Bolt Action, unless you are referring to the Horse Drawn Limber?

[Dr Dave]

They’re pulled by the same Matador vehicle that tows the 25pdr in NWE.

In aAfrica and Italy you do see the Crusader tower as well.

[Gareth]

In reality anything could pull a 17pdr as I have found pictures of Universal carriers dragging them. The limber was used with the 25pdr gun and usually pulled by a Morris quad I believe ? Not to worried about the rules just wanted to be accurate with what should be towing what.

[Dr Dave]

You’re right many things could pull it, but it’s the Quad tracktir that units were issued with in NWE.

… and still no Loyd carrier to pull the 6pdr.

[Gerry Brawley]

Currently you can use….. from the British BooK.

Quad Tractor
Matador Artillery Tractor
Scammell Artillery Tractor

The Market Garden book also allow you to use a cutdown version of the Quad,

[Andy Lilof]

NWE:quad tractor (of any source- several diff versions) the Morris had ammo stowage designed in. Others did not therefore the limber was available.
The crusader gun tow (image attached) was used by a number of units in Normandy and usually the ammo was carried on board. I have however seen an image where a limber was used too- can’t recall if I kept it. If I can find I’ll post it here.

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[Dr Dave]

You’re right – I forgot the Crusader Tower. That’s neat, you can use either an armoured or a soft skin tow. Use ful to know. Thanks.

[Andy Lilof]

Found it
Here you go

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[Jim Ripley]

Does anyone know how the rounds were stored in the Limber . The 25pdr rounds ( shell / projectile ) fit ,2 of each in those nice little trays . Was the 17pdr round stored the same way , or was the Limber gutted and the 4 round 17pdr ammo boxes stored inside ? I wonder if we’ll ever see a hybrid plastic / resin kit to build a Crusader Gun Tow , by Warlord or AM suppliers , because I think I want one

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