Rules Questions

[Koin-Koin]

The pilot test to get back a card is performed by the pilot who played the card.

[Rich Tysoe]

Re Home Advantage:

In that case, I withdraw my objection about “Numbers” being overpowered in comparison….

[Blipvert]

I’m sorry, your statement isn’t very clear.

Which pilot is playing the card? The ace who’s skill provide the card? Or the pilot making the attack?

In Set them Up, the Ace is setting up another pilot for a good shot. The Ace must be in range of the pilot doing the shooting but the Ace has no part in the attack.

[Mark Barker]

Home Advantage:-

IIRC Feedback from Andy Chambers on the FB page (when everyone could read it) was that ‘Numbers’ and ‘Home Advantage’ were not really suitable for competitive play.

We use Home Advantage in our group because it properly reflects the disadvantage of the Luftwaffe fighting at extended range but one use only then Discard.

If your RAF players are less experienced than the German side (which is a good idea as the Spit is easier to play) it acts as a balancer by allowing them to ‘hang in there’ for an extra hit. And you will be surprised just how often the game comes down to a single Boom token …

[Andy Chambers]

For Set Them Up it’s the Ace that will take the test to retain the card; it’s his skill card, and he’s the one playing the card as a reaction. The effect of it helps another Pilot that is making an attack but that has nothing to do with the retention of the card.

[Ed Nelson]

Today two of us played the Bomber Escort scenario. Some questions popped up:

1) Can Disadvantaged fighters shoot at bombers? In one game, 3 disadvantaged Spitfires took out a bomber.

2) The German Dornier bomber — it can shoot the turret weapons after the bomber moves, correct?

3) The rules for multi-engine aircraft mention a dodge roll, but the German Bombers have 0 agility. Do they get to dodge? If they attempt to dodge, what would be the point? The rules for multiengine planes indicate that the multi-engine plane loses a level of advantage when hit, so it appears that multi-engine planes cannot dodge.

Cheers!

[Bruce]

1) Page 10 of the Expanded Rules, Paragraph 2: “A shooting attack can be conducted against a multi-engine aircraft regardless of its advantage state relative to the shooter”. So yes, Disadvantaged fighters can shoot at bombers.

2) Page 10 of the Expanded Rules, Paragraph 9: “When a multi-engine aircraft completes its activation, it may shoot with its defensive armament against a single enemey aeroplane in range and arc. Each armament listed can target a different aircraft. Again, Pilot skill is not added to the Firepower dice for defensive weapons’ shooting.” So yes, the Dornier can shoot after moving.

3) Page 10 of the Expanded Rules, Paragraph 3: “Multi-engine aircraft only roll dice equal to their Agility when attempting to dodge a shooting attack – their pilot skill is not added.” So if Agility equals zero, no dodging. Some bombers do have an Agility, and they can dodge; if they roll an Ace they don’t lose an Advantage level…

Paragraph 4 on Page 10: “Hits generated by Shooting on multi-engine aeroplanes reduce their Advantage level by one… however they do not not generate Boom Chits unless the target weroplane is already Disadvantaged.”
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[Joe allwarden]

Bruce – I was playing the game with Ed that he mentions. Regarding the dodge, our confusion with the bomber dodging is related to the quote you cite above. We were playing it that instead of a boomchit, the bomber gets its advantage reduced by one (so a dodge would not prevent it). Is the intent that after the advantage is reduced to disadvantaged and receives its second boomchit it needs to fail a dodge roll to be removed? We were playing it that once it receives two boomchits, the bomber is removed(which is how we read the multi-engine rules), So dodging really has no effect which did not make sense to us.

Also, on the shooting at the bombers if you are disadvantaged, we were reading it the way you describe for our first game but then were confused by the reference card which says “disadvantaged planes can never shoot”. It does not state that anywhere in the actual rules so as RAW I agree with you if you do not count the reference card as a “rule” document. Sorry to sound picky but we actually played it both ways and we are just wondering the intent.

[Koin-Koin]

Did I missed something or still no official FAQ in sight?

[Nat]

Its on facebook, uploaded by Ken Natt on to the group:’Blood Red Skies Ready Room’ on Friday everning (20:10 UK time)

[Nat]

As not everyones on FB, heres a copy

Attachments:

1. 13-11-18-BRS-FAQ.docx

[Steve Burt]

Dodge prevents you losing advantage. In the case of a fighter, it doesn’t prevent you getting a boom chit.
Bombers (as far as I can tell) don’t get a boom chit just for being hit like fighters do.
In the case of a bomber, most of them don’t have enough agility to dodge, but if they did dodge, it would stop them losing advantage.
If a bomber is disadvantaged, then I think a successful dodge stops you having to place a boom chit on the plane.

[Andy Chambers]

It sounds like this has been straightened out already, there’s some stuff in the FAQ specifically on bombers that might help.

The biggest take away here is that if you dodge a shooting hit you don’t lost an advantage level – that is the same whether you’re a single engine plane or a multi.

Now MOST multi-engine aircraft have 0 agility so they can’t dodge at all, but an ‘Agile’ multi-engine aircraft adds their Pilot skill to Agility for Manoeuvre tests just like a single engined aircraft does.

[Andy Chambers]

Ah yes, and just to clarify: if a multi-engine plane does successfully dodge a hit while it is disadvantaged then no boom chit is placed on the aircraft.

[Koin-Koin]

Thanks for sharing it here @Nat.
I hope we’ll see it hosted on Warlord’s web site soon so it’s not “considered as official” anymore.

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