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  • #190023
    Marching10
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    This problem has been discussed before, but I haven’t been able to find a consistent answer yet.

    Is the cover modifier always applied to the entire firing unit or do you look at the line of sight of each individual model of a firing unit and see whether it gets the cover modifier or not? I very often see players give the cover modifier to some models within one of their units and not to others.

    P. 57 calls the attackers “shooters”, does this only mean the models of the shooting unit that actually shoot (as if they are in range and have LOS) or all models of the shooting unit? This is important because you should consider 50% or more of the “shooters” for cover.

    This has already been discussed here but the penultimate post has an example that contradicts the previous answers.

    #190025
    Stuart Harrison
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    ‘Shooters’ is models that can actually fire.  To shoot a model needs to be able to draw a line of fire (declare targets step) and within range (measure range and open fire step).

    Cover is given for the entire unit or not at all.  That is the entire reason for having to reach the 50% threshold.  You need to read the actual definitions of the cover modifiers on p54, not just the text box on p57. – “Target is in soft cover: this applies if the majority of the target unit is in soft cover from the point of view of the majority of models firing against it.” and “Target is in hard cover: this applies if the majority of the target unit is in hard cover from the point of view of the majority of models firing against it.”  In both cases, it is the target unit, not the target model.

    #190026
    Marching10
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    Thank you. I actually missed the cover description on page 54.

    #190873

    Ok so I have a question that came up both in a 2e and 3e game that we played earlier in the week.  Does a medic with attendants (i.e., the option to take extra soldiers) get multiple uses of the medic rule?  So if my medic unit has 3 soldiers in it (the medic and 2 others) does that mean that I can use the medic’s rules 3x?  I apologize if this has been asked before but I don’t recall seeing it, and this came from a guy in a tournament that we went to (and verified by the tournament organizer)  I didn’t really agree as that seems kind of game breaking, especially in 2e where the “to hit” numbers are higher.

    #190874
    Stuart Harrison
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    The medic rule is only from the medic model itself, not any attendants – “If the medic’s own unit, or any friendly infantry or artillery unit that has a model within 6″ of the medic model itself, suffers damage from small arms fire…”.

    #190911
    Josiah
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    Two jointed questions:

    The PDF says that Partisans can take “Any vehicle”, does this mean that we have access to armored transports (of corse with the unreliable trait)?

    And if for some reason we do not are we able to so is there the option to take a kubblewagon and upgrade it with a mmg?

    #190921
    Nat
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    Short answer – by RAW (rules as Written… NO!)

    Long answer – If you can justify it any then any non heavy tank can be taken, however the way the PDF is written transports & Tows are a subsection of Vehicles and the specific – only common vehicles can be taken – overrides the generic ..anything not 9+ or worse can be taken.

    there’s pictures of Yugoslovian partisans using hannomags in ’44… so like I said if you can justify it – use it … BUT check with a TO first if going to a tournament.

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